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i now present you with this placeholder post

2017-05-09 19:26:15 by S3C
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placeholder post until the next placeholder post i guess...if time's infinite, then we are all just placeholders in this f*cked up world anyway



 

 


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S3CS3C

2017-05-09 19:30:46

hehe got autoplay to work again...always takes me a few tries though


CyberdevilCyberdevil

2017-05-11 16:30:14

If infinity's a loop, then maybe not even infinity's really infinite! Or maybe our perception of finity is wrong, and everything is infinite. The cycle of life and death. The cycle of food and shit. The cycling of a cycle. The reinterpretations of trends. Autoplay music. Big bang on an eternal loop, and it all plays out the same each time... maybe this is the fifth time you post this post? A finite number in an infinite number of finite cycles of all.

S3C responds:

infinity cannot be a loop, as that implies a closed structure where the starting point will be reached again. A dimension is boundless, thus time is infinite. That doesn't imply events within a dimension can't happen again in a cycle though


KieranMaster10KieranMaster10

2017-05-11 17:40:06

i dont think time is infinite its just very long and in a loop. So when the universe ends a similar one will start so yeah

S3C responds:

the universe collapsing/initiating is irrelevant to the concept of time though


CyberdevilCyberdevil

2017-05-14 08:20:02

The concept of infinity feels finite to me, though. It's like Earth: it's so large that it looks flat even when it's round. Like the universe. Like time. Like everything we know that reaches far further than we can fathom, it'd make sense if that's how it worked. Infinity in a linear fashion however... seems impossible. Nature's all built on circles. Atoms. Cycles. Everything works in loops, in loops, in loops; infinite structures of looping structures.I believe.

S3C responds:

we're not talking description of physical objects here, rather we are defining the abstract. so regardless what feels humanely possible- by definition infinite is the opposite of finite.

atoms are 3-D so they are not circles. they are spherical in models and do have elliptical orbital patterns (the electrons surrounding the nucleus) but in reality are moreso amorphous cloud shaped I think.


CyberdevilCyberdevil

2017-05-15 03:45:23

To compare to atoms though - aren't they virtually infinite? Never-ending? The larger the loop, the longer it should take for it to wear down, so if a small loop is finite, a large one: infinite. I don't think it's so easy as to think logical antonym, to know what the opposite is. It's only in grammar we think in terms like that. The difference between finite and infinite doesn't really have to be so large, but well, if a line is a finite, a circle is infinite, no?

Ah, something like that, then. Non-linear and without corners.

S3C responds:

who knows- is matter infinite? actually, it entirely has to be: the difference between finite and infinite is infinitely large, a finite measurement is quantifiable, infinite measurement is beyond quantifiable, because it's unimaginably large. No...if a line is finite, then you can "bend" it in a matter that both ends meet and form a circle (or any closed shape) in a 2-D plane. If a line is infinite, you can bend it, but since it's infinitely large the ends will never meet to be able to make a closed shape.


CyberdevilCyberdevil

2017-05-15 07:13:13

The smaller the matter, the stronger it bonds; the longer it lasts? Yet the larger it is, the bigger the mass, the longer it takes... well I get what you're saying, but I don't believe there is a space so large it never ends, or stretches in all directions. I make sense of infinity by making it circular, or oval - dimensional, rounded. Atoms and Earths and Galaxies and Universes and so on. An order possible to express on a quantifiable scale, despite the unfathomable size of said expression, which by definition does make it finite huh... I see what you're getting at. I think the conclusion this is coming to is: I don't believe in infinity in regard to space, only in regard to time or distance. A finite mass or measurement with potential to loop or bend infinitely, but not mass with potential to expand infinitely.


nietzlawenietzlawe

2017-05-22 21:49:38

Life is like a relay race.

S3C responds:

hmm...well that's much better than dick measuring contest.


nietzlawenietzlawe

2017-05-23 21:30:43

I have never participated in the dick measuring contest. Couldn't find a tape measure that long.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpaOy8b8X6A

S3C responds:

kek